User talk:Hunu

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Dear Andy Mabbett, Thank you. Hunu (talk) 19:50, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

Eponyms

Hi! For add eponyms in a author page, just add {{Eponyms}}. Regards, Burmeister (talk) 20:37, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

You can see an example here, with your edit to the left, and Burmeister's corrected version to the right. Best regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 23:47, 7 June 2021 (UTC).

Thank you. Hunu (talk) 05:53, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

┌─────────────────────────┘ Hi again. I saw that you had some problems with editing the Eponyms template, where you had to revert your own edits no less than three times. You are not at all to blame – instead, the problem most likely originates from the {{Publications}} template, when used on the same page as {{Eponyms}}. That's why we generally use

=={{int:Publications}}==

{{Inc}}

instead of the {{Publications}} template. Put differently, we add the word "Publications" as a normal headline (enclosed in an {{int:...}} tag for automatic translation), and then add the {{inc}} template in order to produce a localized "List may be incomplete" phrase. Otherwise the [Edit] links on the page may behave in an odd way, leading for example to the problems that you experienced. Hope this helps.

Kind regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 13:03, 14 June 2021 (UTC).

Thank you again. Sorry! I am rushing too much and made some mistakes. Hunu (talk) 13:58, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

We all do mistakes, occasionally. Considering your total of 550 edits, a handful of mistakes is no big deal. Thank you for your contributions. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 14:12, 14 June 2021 (UTC).

Rezvoi

Dear Burmeister and dear Tommy Kronkvist! Now I' m working for articles about the authors of volumes of "Fauna of the USSR" (or "Fauna of Russia and adjacent countries"). I found that geologist Dmitrii Petrovich Rezvoi was mixed with his father zoologist Piotr Dmitrievich Rezvoi. Of course, Dmitriy was not able to described species in the age of 14 years old. He was prominent geologist, specialist in tectonics. Now I made the disambiguation page. But most probably Dmitrii Petrovich Rezvoi had no relations with zoology. Hunu (talk) 09:50, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

The list of main publications of Dmitriy Rezvoi is here [1]. I found only one publication in paleontology: New finds of Cambrian deposits in the Turkestan-Alai mountain system // Dokl. Academy of Sciences of the USSR. 1953. V. 93. No. 6. S. 1089-1090. (Резвой Д.П. Новые находки кембрийских отложений в Туркестано-Алайской горной система // Докл. АН СССР. 1953. Т. 93. № 6. С. 1089-1090.). Another one in the list (Журавлева И.Т., Резвой Д.П. П. Д. К систематике ископаемых губок и археоциат // Докл. АН СССР. 1956. Т. 111. № 2. С. 449-451 : ил) is mistake again. It's not article by Dmitriy, the author is his father. Hunu (talk) 10:16, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Category:Vladimir Nikolajevich Sukachev taxa

Hi Hunu, Sukaczev is author of the following name:

• Pinus pityusa var. stankewiczii Sukaczev, Bot. Žhurn. (St Petersburg) 1: 37 (1906)

Frankis is author of the following name:

• Pinus brutia var. stankewiczii (Sukaczev) Frankis, Papers, Int. Symp. Pinus brutia Ten., Marmaris: 14 (1993).

Sukaczev is author of the basionym, but not of this combination. Therefore I have removed the Sukaczev category from this name and likewise from some other names of which this author is basionym author. Best wishes, --RLJ (talk) 09:03, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi RLJ, Thank you for your note. I'm not specialist in botanical taxonomy. But as far as I understand, if the name stankewiczii was given by Sukachev, then the taxon belongs to him, and he is the author of the taxon, and the new combination belongs to Frankis. We could ask experts. Hunu (talk) 09:55, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi Tommy Kronkvist. Could you help us in the problem. Or may be you know the person, who we could ask to help. Hunu (talk) 09:58, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

RLJ, Oh, I see would do you mean. You replace Category:Vladimir Nikolajevich Sukachev taxa from Pinus brutia var. stankewiczii to Pinus pityusa var. stankewiczii. I agree it's better. Nevertheless I suppose that it's correct to have two type of categories: Category:Michael P. Frankis taxa and Category:Michael P. Frankis combinations Hunu (talk) 10:17, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Until now it is common practice here not to categorize basionym authors, but to categorize them at the redirect containing the basionym as I have done it by moving the Sukaczev category to the redirect Pinus pityusa var. stankewiczii. To change this practice would mean a substantial change causing a lot of work. Ex-authors (following the pattern: Ex-author ex Author) and authors of replaced synonyms and of invalid names should not be categorized as well. Likewise, eponyms should only be categorized with the original publication, not with combinations. -RLJ (talk) 10:54, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for Betula nana subsp. exilis. Yes, I understand that it's a lot of work. But it's better to begin now then 10 years later. Hunu (talk) 11:15, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Before introducing a new group of categories, the matter should be discussed in the Village Pump to achieve a consensus. --RLJ (talk) 13:27, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Certainly. I'm looking forward reaction from administrators of the project. Hunu (talk) 16:52, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

┌─────────────────┘ ​ Interesting discussion. Creating a [[Category:Combinations by author]] segment is an interesting idea and could be useful, at least to some extent. However as you both agree it would take a lot of work to create the many (probably several thousands) new sub-categories needed for each of the authors involved. In any case it must be discussed at the Pump first, as you both point out. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 22:09, 16 May 2023 (UTC).

• Thank you Tommy Kronkvist! Please let me know, if you begin the discussion. I believe that an author of a new combination isn't equal an author of a new taxon. Hunu (talk) 23:01, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Pages for people who are not taxon authors

Hi! I've seen for a while now that you've been creating pages for people who have taxa named after them (eponyms) but are not taxon authors and haven't published any article related to taxonomy, e.g. Anatole von Hügel, Henri Philippe Marie d'Orléans. Unfortunately, I'm not sure if pages for such people are actually within Wikispecies' scope or not, so they might have to be deleted (unless others disagree and think they should be kept because of the eponyms?). Monster Iestyn (talk) 23:39, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi! I am grateful to you for your opinion, but I hold the opposite point of view. Eponyms are an important part of the history of zology and botany. That is why the Wikipedia project has an eponym template. As for such famous travelers as Henri Philippe Marie d'Orléans, he published descriptions of his travels and left diaries. These are extremely important sources for clarifying the locations of many holotypes described from his collection. If you do not agree with me, the discussion should be moved to some forum. Hunu (talk) 10:20, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

What you say makes sense, but I think it best to check if the other regular Wikispecies editors would agree or not first, so I've started a Village Pump discussion here: Wikispecies:Village Pump#Pages for people who have eponyms but are not taxon authors. Monster Iestyn (talk) 12:05, 16 March 2024 (UTC)